I will be leaving this worldline shortly and this will be my final
post. There are only a handful of people who will know exactly when I
will be leaving and I’m sure they will let you know when I’m gone.
In the last few days I have found your choice of topics quite
interesting and from an objective viewpoint I think it collectively
answers one of your own questions, “If time travel is real, where are
all the time travelers?” In the past, I have stated that quite frankly,
you all scare the Hell out of me and I’m sure other temporal drivers
would feel the same. But now I have an expanded explanation with two
examples.
A while ago (on one of the posts), I related an experience I had
with my parents while we were driving down a highway. Every now and
then, we would pass someone who was in obvious distress with their
vehicle. I was amazed that so many people could pass them by without
stopping to help. Their explanation was fear. The risk of helping
someone was too great and with today’s technology, they probably had a
cell phone anyway. If they didn’t, the walk to a gas station would be
good for them and teach them a lesson for running out of gas.
The other example is the plight of the homeless. When you pass them
as individuals on the street I see the way people selectively choose an
alternate path to avoid them.
Those two examples best define why time travelers do not show
themselves. In trying to help you, we put ourselves as great risk and
there’s really no point to it. We know the nature of time dictates that
traveling between “exact” worldlines is impossible. Therefore, the only
results we will see will be the ones we stay to see. Since worldlines,
outcomes and events are infinite, we have better things to do. When I
arrive in the “new” 1998 worldline on my way home I could easily start
all of this again and continue to go through the same conversations
with all of the same people. However, I already know you won’t pay any
attention or believe me because we’ve already been through it on this
worldline. Besides, I think the walk to the gas station will do you
some good.
*****************************************************************************************
The following are the last questions I saw before my “going home” post. I apologize for not being able to get to all of them.
ROBERT:
((Do most of the people of that time die out, especially ones that currently have health problems?))
Yes, and people are still dying and a great deal of them are
passing from CJD. As I said, with my very first few posts almost 6
months ago, I want to emphasize how devastating this will be. I believe
two people are confirmed dead in Colorado from CDJ from surgical
instruments. Ahhhh, the power of cheese. Milk does a body good and beef
is what’s for dinner!
Me: “No, I have not tried any fast food. Thinking about where the
food came from, how it was shipped and treated absolutely terrifies me.
I have tried to tell people about CJD disease and it seems to be
“catching on” in Europe.”
Me: Do not eat or use products from any animal that is fed and eats parts of its own dead.
Me: The “Mad Cow” story here is yet to begin…
((Is it possible that sometime in your future or in your present time that time travel will be commonplace?))
Yes, that is absolutely possible and eventual.
((Have any of the scientists of your time discovered any new planets, possibly ones with life?))
Not that I’m aware of.
((Has the bandwidth of the Internet increased greatly?))
Yes.
((And finally, one last question…how did Texas fare during the war?))
Texas is still there but Spanish is a lot more popular.
DAN:
((How does time travel affect our future (no pun intended)
exploration of the universe? It seems that the greatest obstacles in
our way right now are a matter of energy (propulsion technology) and
economic feasibility. It seems to me that time travel technology could
neatly takes care of both.))
There is a great deal of debate about trying to use a distortion
unit to “travel” to the moon. The experiment would require very precise
calculations that would allow the VGL system to find a theoretical path
to the moon on a different worldline. The only problem is there is no
way to communicate with anyone if the experiment should succeed. In
other words, it’s possible to do it but only the people on the
receiving end could take advantage of it.
DAVID:
((My oldest son wanted me to ask if you have any siblings.))
No, I am an only child.
((Also, are you still planning on broadcasting your departure via a
broadcast over the Internet? That would be quite interesting.))
My father will be videotaping the departure. I appreciate Rick’s
offer but my primary concern is the anonymity of my family. In
addition, my departure will be in a somewhat public place and I do not
want to draw additional attention to myself. At no fault of his own, I
would also submit that Rick’s involvement would not add any credibility
to the event.
((Is there still an NCAA basketball tournament in 2036, and if so, has it expanded from its current 64-team format?))
Yes, we still play basketball but I am not a fan and can’t comment on its organization.
ALBERT:
((Interesting anyway, hoped you used some of the links.
Thanks.))
Yes I did, thank you.
JOE:
((You say that you wear some kind of flight suit like coveralls
when you are time traveling and that you experience 2 g’s for 6-8 hrs.
How is it possible to withstand that kind of g-force for such a long
period without the use of an anti-g suit?))
The average human can take 2 G’s without too much difficulty.
Blackout occurs at about 8 or 9 Gs and redout occurs at negative 3 Gs.
((I know you must be physically trained for space travel, but you should also have the benefit of equipment to help you out.))
We are encouraged to stay physically fit.
EMMETT:
In an effort to address Emmett’s comments, (and in all fairness) the
following posts are out of context and not in order. If I’m not a real
time traveler I would suggest that Emmett is at a disadvantage on his
tactics to “expose” me.
If I present a picture of a sea monster to you and I claim it’s
real you are forced to argue its validity on the basis of the evidence
that I present or create. Under these circumstances, you can’t win. If
you look at the picture and argue that sea monsters should have more
teeth or their incisors are not in proportion to the amount of fish
they eat, it’s easy to ask you how you know so much about sea monsters
if they don’t exist. Granted, you could point to dinosaur skeletons and
make comparisons. But I can still say, its not a dinosaur, it’s a sea
monster. In fact, I could even “whip” up some tooth marks on a piece of
petrified wood and prove to you don’t know anything about sea monsters.
((I realize that you haven’t given “all of the technical details”
of the device…so, the reparte has been fun. But your device, as
described, simply won’t work.))
If you don’t have all the details, how do you know it doesn’t work?
((Honestly, I’m not upset about any of this…and the only emotion involved for me is joy. This is fun! It really is.)
Joy?
Emmett drew the following assumptions from our conversation and I don’t believe I said any of them.
((The universe that you described, that is, one where mass is
accelerated to light speed and forms a singularity doesn’t exist.))
((1. As you accelerated to light speed in your machine you and your machine formed a black hole.))
((2. From your perspective as you accelerated to light speed every
other object in the universe formed a black hole due to your relative
velocities))
((Take a close look at the technical drawing. Look especially at
the left and right end perspectives. Not the same – very poor quality
CAD for a billion dollar project.))
A billion? How do you know it’s a CAD drawing?
((If you have contact with Boomer please attempt to verify the
elapsed time (on his internal chronometer) for his trip from 2036 to
1975. I need that data for a calculation.))
The first leg takes me to 1998. I think I said that quite a few times.
((He also said that the mass of the singularities is that of a “small mountain”.))
If that were true, the unit could not be moved. I only refrenced
the mass of a small mountain in one of our physics conversations. In
fact, I believe I said the mass for the singularities in the distortion
unit was much smaller.
((The last time I checked the physics I didn’t see an “on-off” switch for a black hole or any other singularity.))
Me neither. I don’t believe I said you could turn it on or off.
((At 2 g acceleration you will be traveling just a tad faster than
a Chevy pick-up in short order (about one year to reach light speed).))
This is the one that really disappoints me. Even you should know
that Einstein’s thought experiment in the isolated elevator was based
on the idea that the effects of acceleration and gravity are the same.
I never said acceleration had anything to do with how the unit
operates.
((Does it really make sense that his handlers would authorize a personal vacation with their billion-dollar machine?))
I’m looking at my orders and I don’t see the word vacation on it
anywhere. You had my hopes up for a moment. Interesting how quickly a
billion-dollars has become a fact now.
((And, though he’s never said that he hasn’t let anyone else come
close to the machine, who took the picture of his two hands in one of
the photos?))
When did I say that? I’ll have to let Pamela explain the laser
pointer picture. She may already have posted the email I sent earlier.
Here are a few other comments I found interesting:
((The answer to the question, “How does a person born in 1998 use the language…?” is – who knows?))
I agree. How would you know?
((The two yellow caution tapes on the device are misaligned. Sloppy workmanship.))
I’ll have to point that out to my “handlers” when I get back.
((I suppose that if you were interested in verification of Boomer’s
science that you could go right to the source, Dr. Frank Tipler, Tulane
University, for an interview.))
He’s a very pleasant gentleman. I highly recommend his book, The
Physics of Immortality. I believe I made reference to this earlier.
((…what would prevent we, the enemy state, from returning the machine to 2036 with a suitcase nuclear device onboard?))
This is the second time I’ve seen a reference to the unit as a
weapon. I would submit that the people of this worldline have nothing
to fear from me. What would you do with the unit?
((J.C. …I like the way Darby thinks))
Now there’s an endorsement.
For more information on black holes and sigularities, I did find this site.
http://www.rdrop.com/users/green/school/primordi.htm
In your opinion, what is the smallest mass that can form a
singulairty? Even Hawking suggested primordial singularities were
created at the Big Bang. Were there planets (or half planets) around to
form them then?
Based on your ability to draw conclusions about someone’s profile
from their typed words I find it hard to believe you would make such
errors in the syntax and meaning of the exact same words.
Unfortunately, you have now maneuvered yourself into a position where I
have the last word and our debate must has come to an end. Boomer isn’t
a bad name and I sort of like it. Thanks TarBaby.
JAY:
((If there were an infinite number of realities, then there would
necessarily arise a reality that somehow causes there to be no other
realities. In fact, an infinite number of such realities would have to
arise that cause there to be no other realities.))
Yes!! Excellent insight. I would have enjoyed a conversation on this.
I’m really going to miss my friend J.C. Although I did find a
buried layer of truth and dedication in what his message was he never
failed to make me smile in his attempt to make it. I couldn’t help but
post a few choice comments he’s made over the last few months.
((Further more, my identity in the future would most likely be
changed… Nevertheless, if you have been to the future, you know who I
am. No doubt about that… ))
((Just start naming historical figures in your “time” or stop saying that you are a time traveler.))
((Hey, listen up… As a Time Traveler to the future my self, I
have seen the uniforms. I have even put one on. Therefore, if
TimeTraveler_0 <JOHN> can offer us a picture of his uniform as
proof, I will verify it’s legitimacy with the one I wore.))
((And about GW Bush, I don’t know what to tell you. Although I have an uncle that looks like him.))
((How many times have I said to band Time Travel?))
(( And oh, that unknown variable, it’s me. You didn’t plan on
encountering resistance. Especially a TimeTravelActivist. Hey this
sounds more like something that would happen at the end of a Scobby Do
cartoon. “You rotton kids…”))
(( So in retro-pects, I sense you have anger in me, for having morals and a sense of ethics on this issue of Time Travel.))
((What do you have to lose that you haven’t already messed up already.))
((I mean no disrespect, but you don’t seem to have the wisdom that
I would expect someone from an advanced future would have. Your ideals
are to liberal, much like in the 70′s where things were all about Sex,
drugs and free love. Nasty…))
((I have been trying not to attack anyone since my return. And look at you, you hypocrite. Calling me an “agitator.”))
((Which is probably why so many people believe your story. But your
not Anti-Time Travel like me. None of you have ever been manipulated by
a Time Travelers plan for 21 years. Which is not to say they are, and
you just don’t know it.))
This one is my favorite.
((I’d just like to say, before John Titor, (A.K.A. TT_0 in the post
where he’s been taken out almost) that when he posts, he does a
maneuver that focuses the question back to the receiver, as to have him
think it’s been answered, and to shut him up. (Which in fact, he just
avoided answering it, by doing what he did). He does this very often,
and I’d just wanted to point that out before he did it again.))
((By the way, not to be picky or anything. But I know how perfect
you like to have things with your writing. I just wanted to point out
that you misspelled CHOOSEN. It’s Chosen, with one O.))
((Some Yang will always exist to oppose some Ying.))
((A person doesn’t have to be aggressive to be a @&^$#%. As you
can tell, he’s been using his superior intellect, to manipulate and
control his agenda here. Or am I the only one who can see that?))
Here are a few other things I found in our general conversations which might be worth repeating:
Me: “By that time, it was pretty clear that we were not going back
to what we had and the division between the “cities” and the “country”
was well defined. My father made a living by putting together 12-volt
electrical systems…”
I believe it was a few days ago I saw a news story about potential
problems with power that “might” affect the entire United States. Where
do you think they’ll turn it off first when push comes to shove?
Me: “ However, there are a great many “non lethal” weapon systems in development that turn out to be quite lethal.”
Anyone for microwave popcorn?
Me: If you push a farmer too far, they stop growing food and have nothing to do but hide in the woods and shoot back.”
Second Vermont Sheep Herd Seized
By Wilson Ring
Associated Press Writer
Friday, March 23, 2001; 10:42 a.m. EST
EAST WARREN, Vt. –– Federal agents early Friday seized a second
flock of Vermont sheep suspected of having been exposed to a form of
mad cow disease.
Friday, March 23 9:08 PM SGT
Britain extends culling of healthy animals to whole country
LONDON, March 23 (AFP) -
Britain stepped up its fight against foot-and-mouth disease Friday,
announcing measures to slaughter animals throughout the country and not
just in three targeted areas.
I also want to thank Pamela for helping me with the email and
everyone else who asked intelligent and insightful questions. I have
learned a great deal.
My parting thought revolves around something J.C. has been harping
on since day one. No, I do not have a secret agenda but I have been
paying a great deal of attention to your worldline. My interaction with
you was not a direct mission parameter but it was a secondary mission
protocol based on standing orders given to all temporal drivers. That
secondary objective is basically to gather as much information about a
worldline based on a set of observable variables when we first arrive.
Your worldline met those conditions. What amazes me is why no one here
wonders why Y2K didn’t hit them at all?
Bring a gas can with you when the car dies on the side of the road.
Farewell.
John
Posted by Javier Cortez on 03-24-2001 07:01 PM
Oh come on John, even in the end you still try to buy into people
emotions in hopes that this will be their last chance to believe you. I
feel sorry for those that do. Farewell John, but you only brought this
upon your self. I was only asking the questions no one was asking.
-J.C.
P.S. you said you were out of Town, but I’ll bet you were watching for
a few days since you been back. You won’t be leaving till the 11th of
April. Am I to believe you will still keep watching?
Posted by Javier Cortez on 03-24-2001 07:12 PM
Ahh my hypothetical comments to you. I almost forget about them.
Seems to me like a crawling maneuver. Last chance to get me back for
all those months of asking the questioning no one was asking, uhh
? You sound bitter John. Bitter that the end didn’t come the way you expected?Don’t be a sore loser, and leave slapping and whining. That’s just not what a future major does? Or is it
? Have a nice life John. I mean that, sincerely I do. I just regret you couldn’t have been sincere as well.[Edited by Javier Cortez on 03-24-2001 at 07:15 PM]
Posted by Rick Donaldson on 03-24-2001 07:37 PM
John – I said this in another thread. Good luck, where ever you might end up… and no matter what time line it happens to be.
I do not believe for a second that you’re going anywhere in a time
machine, and as a matter of fact, my observation of said departure
WOULD lend credibility to your story. You don’t have any IDEA how much
credibility it would add. Some people do understand that, but,
unfortunately, the one who needs to understand it, doesn’t. Such is
life, and missed opportunities.
If you ARE a time traveler – and you DO go back to 1998, I’m more
than willing to listen to you then, as I am now. If you forward that
email to me in that year, you can bet your ass on the fact, I will post
it. That means it will show up on my web site after you depart our time
line. With the right dates on the file name…. I’m making a note to
myself to look for it.
If it does not show up… then you aren’t what you said you were.
Good luck.
Rick
Posted by Albert Cattoir on 03-24-2001 08:01 PM
Well, as I understand it, there are still people alive, including everyone looking or involved. So, we all have to live it!
This makes such a topic ‘picky’. (Emotionally Inebriated).
Twilight Zone.
Posted by Albert Cattoir on 03-24-2001 08:06 PM
Well, as I understand it, there are still people alive, including everyone looking or involved. So, we all have to live it!
This makes such a topic ‘picky’. (Emotionally Inebriated).
Twilight Zone.
A little humor, my feeling, if you can not, then be prepared for a world that’s could be quite terrible.
Most of the time, whether anyone will agree or not, people usually
get what they wish for, but in a form, that may not be agreeable with
the viewpoint of the person making the wish.
Make sure you really are knowing what you are really wishin’ for.
And you may want to break apart the ‘chicken bone’ before there is none left.
Posted by Javier Cortez on 03-24-2001 08:30 PM
Well Rick, it’s good to understand how much respect and influence
people here think you have. Just make sure you use that responsibly,
and try and see both sides of an issue. Or else, we may end up bumping
heads in a many discussions. After all, I have mentioned time after
time, how much I dislike opportunist and those that exploit people.
But personally, I respect you, and think you can be as much a passionate person like my self when it comes to certain issues.
Just a tad disappointing how much you endorse John like you do… Or
brown nosing? Either way, John is gone now. What he’s left behind will
be people’s gospel. Sad but true. Well, it’s a good thing this board
has a TimeTravelActivist
. To ensure that the other side that never gets talked about, does.Sincerely,
Javier C.
Posted by Albert Cattoir on 03-24-2001 08:31 PM
John, you scare the ‘heck’ out of us. And this ‘connection timed out’ is really scary, and its not even Halloween.
Can I post a message without it double posting because of this, can I, can I?
Posted by Lola Montez on 03-24-2001 08:32 PM
Bye John, it’s been grand.
Thanks for starting a thread that has been amusing, thought provoking
and a darn good read. I have met many people here that I like and hope
to meet again on other boards.
Here’s hoping you make good time,
Lola
[Edited by Lola Montez on 03-24-2001 at 08:48 PM]
Posted by Albert Cattoir on 03-24-2001 09:36 PM
Bye, bye John. Going to another worldline to show this stuff?
The Beginning of Time
http://www.hawking.org.uk/lectures/lindex.html
Welcome to Professor Stephen Hawking’s website.
http://www.hawking.org.uk/home/hindex.html
Time?
Posted by Pamela Moore on 03-25-2001 12:03 AM
Explanation of laser picture:
The machine is in the back and that is a picture of John’s
instructor demonstrating how the machine effects the light beam while
on low power. you can see it bending the beam.
The cigar smoke was blown on the lasar beam to cause the beam to
be seen better. John was in the drivers seat and took the picture. His
instructor was in the passenger seat.
John,
goodbye my friend…safe journey home.
perhaps we shall meet again??
In another Time, another Place…and the journey continues…………………..
I will think of you everytime I see a rainbow.
your friend throughout time,
Pamela
[Edited by Pamela Moore on 03-25-2001 at 12:15 AM]
Posted by Javier Cortez on 03-25-2001 12:12 AM
Actually that laser looks more like a bent red wire to me. But I
guess everyone believe it’s a bent laser, and that the cigar smoke is
to make it be seen well.
Pamela,
What do you mean good-bye? You know your one of the select few he’s keeping in touch with until he leaves
. So John is a real Time Traveler according to you now?-J.C.
[Edited by Javier Cortez on 03-25-2001 at 12:24 AM]
Posted by Pamela Moore on 03-25-2001 01:44 AM
John’s document can be seen here. I feel it is important to be viewed before the 26th.
I suggest viewing it right away…
never know how long it will be up before it cannot be viewed
anymore for “mysterious” reasons.I am sorry it was not available to be
seen when it was given to me.
http://content.communities.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=get_album&ID_Community=MagiForums&ID_Topic=3
sincerely,
pamela
Posted by Pamela Moore on 03-25-2001 07:20 AM
Nationwide Assurance is not a mistake on the document.
I had never heard of it before and researched it i always heard of
Nationwide insurance. but i did research it and found that this
insurance agancy does exist.
This is from here: http://www.bestreview.com/2000-06/corporatechange.html
(about half way down) Colonial Insurance Company of Wisconsin (Madison,
Wis.), Columbus, Ohio. Effective April 30, the title was changed to
Nationwide Assurance Co.
sincerely,
pamela
[Edited by Pamela Moore on 03-25-2001 at 08:00 AM]
Posted by Albert Cattoir on 03-25-2001 10:17 AM
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Posted by Rick Donaldson on 03-25-2001 12:02 PM
Javier: Well Rick, it’s good to understand how much respect and
influence people here think you have. Just make sure you use that
responsibly, and try and see both sides of an issue. Or else, we
may end up bumping heads in a many discussions. After all, I have
mentioned time after time, how much I dislike opportunist and those that exploit people.
Rick: Javier – I am not now, nor have I ever been an opportunist. I
don’t like them either. Also – let me say this about respect, and even
influence. Those are things that people have to earn. I earn mine with
my family, grandkids, work and in general with my friends. I don’t have
to work hard at it. I’m honest and I mean something when I say it. I
don’t insult people – not on purpose, and I certainly do not go around
talking down to them. As far as bumping heads, I don’t think you and I
are very far off on our thinking. I just approach it in a vastly
different way than you do.
Javier: But personally, I respect you, and think you can be as much
a passionate person like my self when it comes to certain issues.
Rick: Thanks. I think.
Javier: Just a tad disappointing how much you endorse John like you do…
Or brown nosing? Either way, John is gone now. What he’s left
behind will be people’s gospel. Sad but true. Well, it’s a good
thing this board has a TimeTravelActivist . To ensure that the other
side that never gets talked about, does.
Rick: Let’s get something very clear. I’ve not endorsed anyone for
anything here. I am NOT endorsing John, or you, Ernie Vega, Pamela, or
anyone else. Can you not make any comments with you lowering yourself
to insulting people? (i.e. “Brown nosing”). Is that what you think life
is all about? Seeing how ‘witty’ and ‘smartassed’ you can be? It isn’t.
There is a very old saying that goes “You can catch more flies with
honey than vinegar”. It was true in my Great Grandmother’s day, and it
is true today. John is gone, but certainly not forgotten. His words are
not “gospel” to anyone. No one here is the “sheep” you called them
before. I personally am insulted at that term applied equally to
everyone as you have done in the past. A sheep is someone who blindly
follows, believes for no other reason than they feel they must. The
people here not only are intelligent (some are outwardly brilliant) but
they are thinking people who have considered as much of this material
as they could get their hands on before making any rash statements
about “following someone”. I’ve not seen anyone here do that. I’m sure
you’ve felt that Pamela is one of those sheep. The problem is, Javier,
you don’t know her personally (neither do I), but apparently she has
seen some material we have not. That gives her the right to believe
whatever she wishes. Not only that, if I had been there and actually
seen a time machine, and then watched as it left – I too would believe
it. My own eyes rarely lie to me.
But – I wouldn’t expect anyone here to believe ME because I SAID it
happened. I could just as well be lying about it too. However, I would
tell the truth of what I saw, and let you make the decision for
yourself whether you wanted to trust what I said or not. I wouldn’t
insult you for not believing me. I do see, and understand both sides of
this story.
What John has left behind will be debated by both sides for some
time to come. I venture to guess a few months. No more, and like other
things on the internet it will fade away and be forgotten. You’re
young, almost 21 -right? You will for get this in time and it will be
just one other feather in your cap that you can say “I won the debate.
The time traveler couldn’t prove himself to me, so I win”.
Javier, my friend, that isn’t what this was about. John placed some
information before us for debate. Not for attack. A good argument isn’t
about attacking the other side, a good argument brings out all the good
and bad points both sides have, and it allows the spectators to make a
decision regarding the data. To many of us for too long have been
exposed to the media in this country where a good arguemnt is a good
attack, along with mudslinging and dirt. Debates should not include
barbarous attacks, name calling, mud slinging or calling into question
a person’s integrity (unless everything being stated is a lie – but
you’ve got to PROVE IT IS A LIE). Nothing here can ever be construed to
have been a lie. Nor, on the other hand can we believe it is the truth
at this point. We’re precisely where we were when we started!
The person who attacked me in private was too cowardly to come
forth and post their information here on the board – so I did it for
them. They were right about certain things – about manuals and about
the way things are accomplished in the government – with one caveat…
nothing is perfect, especially manuals produced by contractors for the
government. Neither are proceedures, and certainly neither are the
arguments that you and I have put forth. But they didn’t prove anything
by their statements, any more than I have (which I think is what upset
me the MOST with the personal attack in email. I wasn’t trying to PROVE
anything, I was making a simple, and TRUTHFUL statement about
government manuals. Someone just took it personally!)
John has not proven anything. But worse still, because of the lack
of information, NONE of us has proven one thing. You have not proven he
is not a time traveler. I haven’t proven one way or the other he is a
time traveler. John did not prove he was.
I can only say from the number of hits on the thread that the
discussion was good, and there was some intelligence placed here in
this thread that I hope at leasts makes Keith Rowland, his wife and Art
Bell proud. Some of the people I’ve discussed this subject with,
offline, have told me that the BBS was being checked out by some
government folks – mostly tongue in cheek – to see if there might be
some truth to what John said. They have pulled pictures from my site as
well as Doc’s orginal site and examined them for anything they could
get.
The one thing that leaves me in doubt about the entire episode is
the picture of the time machine. I have contacted people in several
fields and sent the picture along for examination. It is 1) a home
built device or 2) it is exactly what it seems at this point.
No one can identify the object as being anything else produced in the
past so far. What I’m getting at is this device doesn’t match any
pre-2001 military equipment. At least not that we’ve been able to
locate so far. I’ve got some experts on this too, folks who *I* believe
when they tell me something. So, if one comes through and finds out
what this thing is, I will certainly let everyone know.
Until then, it remains inconclusive in my eyes. Personally, I would like to believe John.. for several reasons.
I want to believe time travel is possible, but more importantly, I
want to believe John’s stories of his history – and to look for ways to
change things on our time line BEFORE THOSE THINGS COME TO PASS.
My job has been and always will be to help the human race go
forward – never backward. If I can find ways to stop a nuclear war, I
certainly will do so. However, if I can’t and it comes to a Civil War -
I will always fight on the side of Freedom. Always. I always have, and
I certainly always will.
The human race does not depends on me, nor Javier, nor John. It depends
on the collective concious of the entire planet full of people to do
the right thing. Sometimes, those who are misguided do the wrong thing
and take down with them thousands of people. WE are here, in the here
and now, regardless of whether John is a time traveler. His interaction
with us has changed NOTHING. His leaving changes NOTHING.
What WE DO from now on out however, will make all the difference in the
world for our histories. Keep that in mind as you (Javier) continue
your investigation and being a “Time Cop”.
Rick
[Edited by Rick Donaldson on 03-25-2001 at 12:20 PM]
Posted by Mel Reckling on 03-25-2001 12:32 PM
Hey John, you said you haven’t tried any of our fast food. Why don’t
you take one of them Arby’s Roast “Beef” sandwiches back to 2036 and
see if any of the great brains of the future can figure out what it’s
made of. It beats the heck out of me.
I hope I echo the sentiments of the other peoples on this post when I say we’ll miss y’all.
May the “Winds of Time” be always at your back.
[Edited by Mel Reckling on 03-25-2001 at 12:34 PM]
Posted by Javier Cortez on 03-25-2001 02:04 PM
Bravo Rick, Bravo. Beautiful and inspirational as always
regardless of your intent or not.I understand your points. But does anyone understand mine? You said
that this does not depend on you, John, or me but on everyone’s
collective conscious. What do you think I am here for? If everyone’s
collective thinking goes to 1 side, then I and the rest of the minority
get screwed. And then Time Travel someday will be used to use the past
in whatever the future dictates. I cannot allow that.
I want peace and freedom as much as you do. But not when the other
side gets ignored. I’m sorry that it hurts some people, but they have
to know. They have to know that another alerternative way of looking at
it exists. And that’s what I will continue doing. Hopefully we can try
and see eye to eye in the next few months as this thread continues.
And no, this will not fade in my life. As long I shall live, I will
in someway or another fight to keep people free and make sure those
that exploit others get the justice that they deserve.
Truly,
Javier C.
P.S. What does that Final Proof suppose to prove Pamela? That he’s
a real Time Traveler? Maybe it means that they need the updated
information by 3-26-01. Anyone think of that? I get a bunch of bills
with dates ahead; even my insurance is like that.
Just asking the questions, no one is asking…
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