Postagens Originais do John Titor (Parte 30)

Posted by Emmett “Darby” Darbyshire on 03-26-2001 09:31 PM

Rick,
I did get a chuckle when Boomer slipped in that slick answer, “It’s a
real name.” I still say that he’s got a good sense of humor (when he
avoids getting emotional).


Posted by Phil Fiord on 03-27-2001 06:52 AM Talking
I recall thinking ‘John may be English’ because his humor is rather
dry not so far from the english humor. This still did not conflict with
my thought that he may indeed be in Florida because I have known people
in FL with dry humor as well. I just wonder…Does John have a drawl?

Greetings all, from the 3rd world state of California Where electricity service is broken But its sunny.

Posted by Albert Cattoir on 03-27-2001 10:06 AM
I find it interesting that John said that the name is of a real
named person. Look it up. There is a dead John Titor listed for the
Chesapeca (Spelling) Cemetary in PA(Pennsylania — Spelling).

From Emmett’s link:
Since the first two breakthroughs could require breakthroughs in
energy generation, and since the physics underlying the propulsion
goals is closely linked to energy physics, it is also of interest to
discover fundamentally new modes of energy generation. The principle
phenomena of interest for this category is, again, the vacuum
fluctuations. It has been theorized that this energy can be extracted
without violating conservation of energy or any thermodynamic laws
(Forward 1984, Cole 1993). It is still unknown if this vacuum energy
exists as predicted, how much energy might be available to extract, and
what the secondary consequences would be of extracting vacuum energy.

Special relativity states that the speed of light is an upper limit for
the motion of matter through spacetime. Recently, however, theories
using the formalism of general relativity have suggested that this
limit can be circumvented by altering spacetime itself. This includes
wormhole and warp drive theories. A wormhole is a shortcut created
through spacetime (Morris 1988 and Visser 1995), as illustrated in
Figure 3, where a region of spacetime is warped to create a shorter
path between two points. A warp drive involves the expansion and
contraction of spacetime to propel a region of spacetime faster than
light (Alcubierre 1994). Figure 4 illustrates the Alcubierre warp
drive, showing the opposing regions of expanding and contracting
spacetime that propel the center region.

During the workshop these possibilities were discussed with an emphasis
on experimental verification. A poster by Forward suggested a search
for evidence of negative mass based on recent astronomical data (da
Costa 1996). The posters of Dinowitz, Froning, Ringermacher, and
Woodward all offered experiments to test their theories. Several
experiments were suggested to test the theories linking inertia to
vacuum fluctuations, including experiments described in existing
literature (Forward 1996). And interest was expressed in continuing the
experiments to test the claims of weight changes over spinning
superconductors (Li 1997).

Theories that could be used instead for ‘Time Travel’ not
‘Space Travel’, certainly could lean that way perhaps. ???

Posted by Albert Cattoir on 03-27-2001 10:11 AM
Chester Rural Cemetery Index T
… Titerrence Titter Tittor Tittor Tittor / Titor Tittsworth Titus Titus Titus Titus … Filomena
Anna Eliza / Elizabeth Emmor John LeeRoy Louis William Frederick …
http://www.oldchesterpa.com/crc/crct.html – 101k – Cached – Similar pages
Well at least the name was a real person.
Only one listed, I think, on the net.
By the way, John Titor, searching, leads anyone to this thread.

Posted by Phil Fiord on 03-27-2001 01:02 PM Arrow
Indeed, A John Titor is listed. I wonder if this was a baby . You
know how a person would take a birth cert from a dead baby of their
approx age and obtain documents for themself as the babys name? Suppose
that was done so John had a real name for Car Insurance and such?
Surely death records are still archived in 2036 and a cert would be
obtainable. hmmmm.


Posted by Tom Dehn on 03-27-2001 01:23 PM
Interesting thread, I must say.
Well, the jury seems out, and I must say John TT was quite interesting. However. Here is where he slipped up:
On his last post, he mentioned the phrase “Milk does a body good and beef is what’s for dinner!”
The fact that a man from 2036 knows of these two ad campains strikes me as pretty odd, as they are pretty old hat even now.
The other issue is that these ad campains died out roughly 6 to 7 years
ago, which if John was visiting himself as a baby in 2001, he would
have also missed television references to said ad campaigns. Only one
who LIVED through those times would have and will have these slogans
engrained in our common pop culture, which to an outsider would be
pretty obscure. The ads were also not present in 1976 either, where
John supposedly visited.

I deduce that John TT knows these slogans not from Old magazines
or TV, or because someone “now” told him, but because he lived through
those periods, just like everyone else on the planet.

It was a simple slip up.
But a slip up indeed it was.
Nice try, but no dice, John.
I find it rather Ironic that John TT was foiled by the very same
consumeristic pop culture that he so obviously despises, (yet is fused
with)
-Tom Dehn

[Edited by Tom Dehn on 03-27-2001 at 01:41 PM]

Posted by Javier Cortez on 03-27-2001 01:41 PM
Nice work Tom I don’t know of the ad you speak of, but good shot.
-J.C.
P.S. I.O.T.M. has been simi-updated.
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/9822/

Posted by Rick Donaldson on 03-27-2001 03:26 PM
Phil: Darby: I recall thinking ‘John may be English’ because his
humor is rather dry not so far from the english humor. This still did
not conflict with

my thought that he may indeed be in Florida because I have known
people in FL with dry humor as well. I just wonder…Does John

have a drawl?
Interesting assessment. Doing a search of public records I found
the below. Note, I’m not posting anything anyone can’t find for
themselves on an email name search…

Does Joh speak French?
John Titorenko
United Kingdom
jptito@renko.demon.co.uk

Posted by Lola Montez on 03-27-2001 08:10 PM
Rick, You are an impressive detective! That is really interesting.
But, why French? United Kingdom and Titorenko doesn’t really add up to
French, does it? What am I missing?

Also, when were those “Milk does a Body Good” ads out? I remember them but can’t remember the time frame.
Lola

Posted by Phil Fiord on 03-27-2001 08:34 PM Talking
That was an interesting return. Will that person, if not the JT
himself be surprised in the morning. I did the research thing too and
my results are posted on the other thread. I found a possible place he
may have travelled to on the web.

A thought occurs to me though. Suppose JT is a TT and we are
looking for him to not be and start locating the web habits of a man of
similar namesake and referencing them. Would that be kind? Hate to have
a similar name at the moment.

C ya’ll

Posted by Phil Fiord on 03-27-2001 08:49 PM Arrow
It appears from a search I just undertook that the campaign for milk
does a body good ended in late 99 to early 00. The campaign was winding
down for a while and thus not as apparent, but was in print ads into
2000. This would mean that that the milk ad slip is false. JT could
have come across it, if he were a TT. Actually, even though the ads are
now gone, there are still a slew of references to the ad on the web.

There is a book with celebrity milk ads…the moustache book i
think. Fair warning though, in my search I crossed paths with a vegan
site that details the less desirable side to cows milk. If you are weak
in the tummy, please do not hit the link

http://www.milksucks.com

Posted by Pamela Moore on 03-28-2001 12:08 AM
Asked Olav if he could put the video in windows media so I could view the video on his time travel site.
Just got to see it today.
thats very very interesting.
how he searched for the right spot,
opened the hole,
bright flash of white light that engulfs him as he walks through it,and how it fills up the entire area.
and afterward as you see the area where the hole is closing and the
bricks on the fireplace you can observe the warping in and out of space
time as the hole closes.

almost reminds me of ….something.
if it is fake he did a very very good job.
thank you Olav!

Posted by Rick Donaldson on 03-28-2001 03:15 PM
Lola: Rick, You are an impressive detective! That is really
interesting. But, why French? United Kingdom and Titorenko doesn’t
really add up to French, does it? What am I missing?

Hehe you’re missing the most important part of what I didn’t post
there. The John Titoriko (or whatever it was) is in France, he just has
a UK email addy.
Anyway, he has a web site up I think, or at least there was some
information pointing to France. I do not believe this person is the
same as our John.

In all the searching I DID – I DID find John’s email address I believe. I’m not going to put it here though. Anyway, I he didn’t use John or Titor (specifically) in the email address. But,I’m about 83% sure it is him now.
I’ve also not written the email address, because I don’t want John
to think I am trying to really find him. I was doing it out of
curiousity only.

Rick

Posted by Rick Donaldson on 03-28-2001 03:18 PM
Phil:
A thought occurs to me though. Suppose JT is a TT and we are
looking for him to not be and start locating the web habits of a man of

similar namesake and referencing them. Would that be kind? Hate to have a similar name at the moment.
That is why I am not writing the addresses I’ve found. For the
record, I’ve only found 2 references to “John Titor” at all on the net,
and suffice it to say, one is here on this thread, and the other “ain’t
him”.


Posted by Tom Dehn on 03-29-2001 08:38 AM Lightbulb
With respect to the issue of the Milk and Beef slip up,
Is it possible that he picked it up from someone or some ad during his visit in out “time”? Yes. Would it be likely? No.
John TT himself mentioned his disdain for slang, and in our modern pop culture, this would be just that.
The fact is, we (you and I) speak with a lingo and dialect formed by
such pop culture expereinces relevant to our timeframe. In fact, I
would go so far as to say that normal patterns of speech we use now
would be totally not understood if one were to go back to the 1930′s or
40′s.

Ie, expressions like “Cut yourself a slice of rug” or “Putting on
the dogs”, “Slick Jack” , “Soda Jerk”, “Way gone”, “It’s a gasser” etc.
etc. would be as confusing to someone in our time period as would it be
If I went back to 1935 and mentioned someone was “fly” or “Funky fresh
and in effect” “Freak-out” or “He’s a Spaz”. You get the point.

The fact is, that someone from 2036 would have a totally different
set of slangs, speech patterns and dialect even in the written form.
These issues usually pop out unconsiously when writing, and they indeed
DID pop out for John TT in SEVERAL places. Look back on his posts, then
think to yourself, If I were from 2036, would I talk and write and form
sentences with common phrases as John has used?
The point is moot however, as it is obvious from many many other points other than mine that John TT is a total fake.

-Tom Dehn

Posted by Javier Cortez on 03-29-2001 11:37 AM
Excellent deduction once again Tom. Without your input, I’ll wager
some would still have gone on thinking to their 1 side about John being
a real Time Traveler. This may not have changed any heads though, but
you did say something most people don’t want to hear. And that’s very
important to do, especially if it’s the truth. Keep it up .

-Javier C.

Posted by Albert Cattoir on 03-29-2001 11:44 AM
The older you get, the less you use slang or even used it at all.
Excuse me, that is from your own viewpoint, but keep thinking of why
the time machine does not work. I can now tell you why it does not work.


Posted by Pamela Moore on 03-29-2001 04:25 PM
Some things about John…
I was reading over some of these postings and I just wanted to make a few comments.
somebody mentioned John might be a Russian (I think Albert?) and another that he may be from England (I think Rick?)
anyway I just wanted to say I don’t beleive John is either .
I will tell you why…
For one thing John is really from Florida he was telling the truth
about that. I dont think the document he submitted for his chevy was
fake either.

Just as Rick could probably tell you I am really from Ohio. from my email IP.
Another thing I will share with you is I do not beleive John to be
a Russian at all. John and I were talking alot about the Constitution
of the US. I had found a web site with the constitution and the bill of
rights I shared with him how I printed the whole document out and layed
on my bed and read the whole thing out loud to myself. his response to
me was that made him very proud. He beleives strongly in the
Constitution and individual rights of people. He himself videotaped
what was going on in the Florida election. He is very much into this
sort of stuff. Gathering and storing information. The stuff we talked
about in private has lead me to the conclusion that he DEFINITELY is
NOT Russian. Infact he may be more American than any of us.

Another thing is people from England call their Mothers, mum. John
has not called his mother mum not even one time not even while talking
in real time. so I do not beleive him to be from England either.

You may not find a web site that John has because maybe he doesnt
have one. I don’t have a web site either. And I myself have not used my
last name on web sites if I have posted I have always just used Pamela.
or pamela with a number after it if someone else had pamela taken.
maybe he has done the same. who knows.

Rick, I think it was a good idea you had in starting the Titor 2036
thread analyzing and compiling data. hopefully it will get back on
topic soon. Another thing I wanted to mention real quick is when I
commented on the 2.5 it was from an email from John it was never posted
on this forum.

sincerely,
Pamela

Posted by rich staton on 03-29-2001 09:59 PM Wink
perhaps its all a joke

Posted by Albert Cattoir on 03-29-2001 10:08 PM
My only concern is living in the present. The world is too small for
other people from other Countries to not maybe read this thread. I been
on other forums and there are people from all over the world on them. I
feel it is irresponsible to talk about a future that may be implied as
having occurred. This is not where I want to be with it.

And so do people from other countries listen to the Art Bell show.
Someone in this Country better start thinking about what is really
going on in this world first.

Talk may be cheap but certain ideas that relate “as long as you do not bother me with it” better apply to both parties.
Do not preach to me.

Posted by Albert Cattoir on 03-29-2001 10:26 PM
Anyway to a certain point I can forgive that. Talking about a
possible future may not be as interesting to anyone if not jazzed up
with time travel, but I really do not know about that. What is the
purpose? That you are invinceable?

That only you can have so much “hate” in you?
Really, you ain’t seen nuthin’ about what some people really think
in this world. You may find that hard life you really want. This is a
New Age. Mistakes will be made even by me or anyone, but this
constantness of this thread implies that if John is TT, he is also
insane. The rest of us will not lose our freedom because someone
“thinks” that they should have “more freedom than anyone else”.


Posted by Javier Cortez on 03-29-2001 10:34 PM
And the reason behind gathering all of this information John said is for what?
Because some of you believe his claims and want to see if it becomes real, right?
This isn’t an impartial forum, it’s a forum for those that believe
John’s story I see it, nothing else. And talking other wise or
questioning his story, gets you attacked and told that you’re going off
topic.

Man, the hypocrisy… Where are our individual’s rights when that happens? Maybe you can help answer that Pamela.
-Javier C.

Posted by Pamela Moore on 03-30-2001 02:33 AM
John’s time travel theories started out as fun and interesting but
has resulted not in discussing theories and possible ways to time
travel but in fighting and discord and people getting offended and
insulted.

I myself am sorry if anything I have posted has offended or
insulted anyone. I only tried to share with you things from my
perspective being close to John. a lot of times things were taken the
wrong way.

Maybe we are not ready to discuss time travel.Maybe it truly belongs to the future.
Peace to all. And Peace to all countries.
sincerely,
pamela
[Edited by Pamela Moore on 03-30-2001 at 03:26 AM]

Posted by Kevin Spooner on 03-30-2001 03:39 AM Question
Now as I recall, there was going to be an attempt to video John’s ‘departure’. I find this (un)(in)credible.
When, pray tell, is this supposed to happen and when may it be previewed.
I look forward to its availability if true. I do not look forward
to the inevitable excuses if it does not. If JT is gone, and the video
is done… where for art thou. If JT is gone, and the video is “out of
luck” material then there will be serious scrutiny and heavy seas
ahead.

Can anyone explain why it is JT required a chevvy as part of the
set? Or is it simply means of transport. And what on earth were those
‘labels’ on his picture for? One appeared to be only casually stuck on.

If the internet is well and alive in 2036 and ‘advanced’ compared to
today as claimed, that implies improved computing and networking. Now
if that is true, then surely quality of print would not have deteriated
but remained either by imprint, toner, inkjet, heat, etc, or other
technology of at least 600×600 DPI or greater. Also, if this is shortly
after some kind of war, then surely they would not have advanced
computing either. Being a computer technician myself with a long
historical involvement therein, I find that incredibly unlikely. Hmm.
Did we find an answer to this?

Now please settle down… I am not denying its possibility just stating findings. I am most curious about its potential.

Posted by Javier Cortez on 03-30-2001 09:42 AM
Beautiful words for those in favor of John. Though I must question
your motives. Pamela what are you trying to say to those that aren’t on
your side>>>

((Maybe we are not ready to discuss time travel.Maybe it truly belongs to the future.))
Can’t you see what we are discussing Time Travel? But whenever anyone
makes statements that question John’s story or if his machine might not
be real you retaliate and defend your friend John?

And then here we have Kevin admitting that he doesn’t even want to hear
the truth if he’s a fake. (Not in those exact terms, but you get my
point).

Geeesh guys, (somebody once said this to me) is there some way to
convince you he’s not a real time traveler? Especially you Pamela, your
the worst. And I mean that with as much touch love as possible. I’d
hate for you to be in pain later on.

I gotta go, be back tonight if anyone wants to have a dialouge.
Peace,
Javier C.

Posted by Rick Donaldson on 03-30-2001 10:01 AM
Javier: And the reason behind gathering all of this information John said is for what?
Once again I will define WHY. So we can DOCUMENT the things stated in
the past, and then CHECK THE ACCURACY. If the things start hitting the
truth, then the chances go up that John was a time traveler. If he
doesn’t hit any of them then he isn’t one. Simple as that.

Kevin: When, pray tell, is this supposed to happen and when may it be previewed.
IF a video is made, I’m supposed to get a copy for the
anomalies.net system and I will ensure that it is digitized,
unretouched from the original and placed into public domain for
everyone to see. Until I get or see it, I can’t be sure we will ever
see one.

Kevin: Can anyone explain why it is JT required a chevvy as part of the set? Or is it simply means of transport. And what on
earth were those ‘labels’ on his picture for? One appeared to be only casually stuck on.
Actually, yes, John did answer that earlier on when someone
questioned the quality of the photos. They were done “in our time”.
Photocopies on a photocopy machine then scanned in. <Shrugs>

Rick
[Edited by Rick Donaldson on 03-30-2001 at 10:11 AM]

Posted by Albert Cattoir on 03-30-2001 11:12 AM
John is a fictional character made up by a person who as yet is
un-identified. He has used people as defined by some purpose that only
can be defined as unknown.

Internet Guard Dog. Grrrrrrrrrrr………….

Posted by Albert Cattoir on 03-30-2001 01:55 PM
Smile Pamela.
The method of time travel needs work that will not be done, in my opinion, in any near future.
That is why it is still fun to talk about, when it becomes real, then it will probably not be fun then.
And afterall, that is all we are doing?

Posted by Kevin Spooner on 03-30-2001 08:35 PM
Javier: And then here we have Kevin admitting that he doesn’t even
want to hear the truth if he’s a fake. (Not in those exact terms, but
you get my point).

Actually javier… I did not say that – please don’t misquote or misinterpret.
I’m looking forward to the video – if its true.
I would be challenging shall we say if it is not true.

Posted by Javier Cortez on 03-30-2001 09:30 PM
Kevin,
Did you not say this?>>> ((I look forward to its availability
if true. I do not look forward to the inevitable excuses if it does
not. ))

How did I misinterpert?

Posted by Phil Fiord on 03-30-2001 10:01 PM Smile
Earlier in the thread it was asked why he needed a chevy. He had
responded it was because he needed adequate suspension due to the 2g
forge imposed on the vehicle. That was not a direct quote but the quote
is in this long thread somewhere.


Posted by Kevin Spooner on 03-31-2001 04:13 AM
You misinterpret well Javier.
“And then here we have Kevin admitting that he doesn’t even want to
hear the truth if he’s a fake. (Not in those exact terms, but you get
my point). “

I did not admit any such thing. You absolutely misinterpreted.
I state again that if all we get are excuses, I’ll be amongst the
first to be very critical. That’s definately not the same as “not
wanting to hear the truth if he’s a fake.” Honestly I wonder what
drives this dribble.

And yes, if there is a video to hand, it will produce a great deal of discussion.
Now… were did I put that nuclear clock…

Posted by Javier Cortez on 03-31-2001 12:21 PM
((And yes, if there is a video to hand, it will produce a great deal of discussion.))
Discussion how it’s real? How the discussion is now about how JT is a real TT? Gee, I look forward to that.
-Javier C.

Posted by Javier Cortez on 03-31-2001 07:24 PM
Well I’m not going to make a long speech good-bye like John did. I’m
not going to address every single person who’ve I’ve spoken to before
and thank the academy . Nor is my good-bye’s intent to seek any last minute approval like John’s.

Not to worry though, I’m not leaving forever , I’m going away for a while. A little vacation.
I can’t say where exactly, but if anyone want’s anything from Florida,
do let me know by this week. I leave the same time John’s supposed
“window of opportunity” is suppose to be open. What a strange
coincidence… I hope his trip goes as planned .

Anyway’s, I hope to come back to the Art Bell forum and continue on discussing Time Travel and how it’s unethical.
In the mean time, I hope some will stand up to the majority that are 1 sided, and question them.
I’d hate to come back and see everyone chanting heehe, that was a joke. Funny isn’t it?
Good-bye everybody. Though I don’t leave for another week.
-Javier C.
[Edited by Javier Cortez on 03-31-2001 at 07:29 PM]

Posted by Rick Donaldson on 04-02-2001 07:07 AM
That was for Javier.
Rick

Posted by Javier Cortez on 04-02-2001 10:37 AM
I don’t get it Rick… Are you calling me a fool? I thought we weren’t going to resort to attacks anymore?

Posted by Rick Donaldson on 04-03-2001 07:56 AM
Javier: I don’t get it Rick… Are you calling me a fool? I thought we weren’t going to resort to attacks anymore?
I was refering to John “being a time traveler”. It’s an April Fools joke. You don’t get it yet?

Posted by Javier Cortez on 04-03-2001 08:51 AM
Nope I didn’t get it. And for 2 reasons. Here’s why:
1. I didn’t see John’s name in anywhere in that joke.
2. It wasn’t April 1st when you made it.
Nice try.
-J.C.

Posted by Pamela Moore on 04-03-2001 11:45 AM
To the board:
Please don’t send me any more messages for John.
John is no longer in this worldline… he has went home.
When I receive the video of John’s departure I will send a copy of it to Rick to put on his web site.
John requested to please not harass anyone who was unlucky enough to have the name John Titor because it will not be him.
He said he was flattered that his words were being dissected so
carefully but that he could see you were applying your own standards
and thoughts to what was said.

He wanted me to remind you that people in different times do not
think the same way you do and a cultures maturity is determined by how
far it can plan into the future.

please be patient on the video.
John……goodbye my friend.
sincerely,
Pamela
[Edited by Pamela Moore on 04-03-2001 at 11:55 AM]

Posted by Javier Cortez on 04-03-2001 02:37 PM
He said on March 10 that he would leave in 30 days. He lied, he left
alot sooner. There is no set standard to that, that’s the truth. He
said it him self.

There is nothing wrong with dissecting. After all, that’s what Rick
will do with the video, and interpret it not by twisting the facts to
our liking, but to what it really is. Nice try John, trying to lay a
guilt trip on us .

If anything, John twisted the facts to his favor on more then a few
occasions. Just look at the thread “I am from 2036.” He comes here and
convinces a few people that he is in fact a Time Traveler all just on
faith. And now, will those that do believe John’s claims ever be the
same?

I sure hope so… I know what it’s like to have been brainwashed and only see 1 side.
Peace,
Javier C.

Posted by Pamela Moore on 04-03-2001 03:21 PM
Javier,
As always, the truth is in the details.
I went back to march 10 here it is:
((Dear Fellow Time Travelers:
In about 30 days, I will be leaving this worldline to return home to 2036. )))
you notice the little detail “about”
about 30 days. not exactly 30 days.
but “about”.
25 days is about 30 days.
You don’t have to worry about John anymore, Javier or running into him in Florida. He is gone Javier. G-O-N-E. and safe.
disappointed? too bad.
sincerely,
Pamela
…” I know what it’s like to have been brainwashed and only see 1 side.”
somehow I beleive you.. for you truly only do see one side.

[Edited by Pamela Moore on 04-03-2001 at 03:44 PM]

Posted by Javier Cortez on 04-03-2001 04:32 PM
Ouch…
See what I mean Rick?
That was no truth, that was personal. Every time I tell you the truth
about John I get the business from you Pamela. It’s a good thing he’s
gone, hopefully now you’ll start to come to your senses.

Peace,
Javier C.

Posted by Pamela Moore on 04-03-2001 05:01 PM
“If you look back I was on topic, and made a little unbiased comment
about John. Then Pamela playing her “wonder women” role came in and up
setted the whole thing. “

Javier,
I kind of like the nickname “wonder woman”
now…if I could only remember where I parked that invisible plane of mine! hahahaha
-Pamela
[Edited by Pamela Moore on 04-03-2001 at 05:17 PM]

Posted by Andy Gerberich on 04-03-2001 07:15 PM
I’m real sorry to inform you people of this but,— corporeal beings
are not permitted to travel backward in time. It is a universal
principal that time travel only to the future, is permitted. We are
not, in any way, shape or form, thank god, permitted to alter that
which will be, by changing that which was.


Posted by Javier Cortez on 04-03-2001 07:44 PM
Pamela,
So that makes 3 people here with nicknames, is that about right?
Javier Cortez = “TimeTravelActivist”
John Titor = “Boomer”
And
Pamela Moore = “Wonder Woman”
Don’t let it get to your head though. Just like when you passed that Mensa Exam .
Btw, Ever hear of the joke involving Superman, Wonder Woman and the Invisible Man? Hehee, wouldn’t you like to know.
-J.C.

Posted by Pamela Moore on 04-03-2001 10:19 PM
Javier,
“Don’t let it get to your head though.”
Darn…You mean I can’t wear my “wonder woman” outfit and special cape?
You forgot Darby. John called him “Tarbaby.”
Rick needs a nick name……(Moulder? (x-files))
p.s. tell me the joke.
-pamela
[Edited by Pamela Moore on 04-03-2001 at 10:42 PM]

Posted by Javier Cortez on 04-04-2001 12:37 AM
Pamela,
I’d like to tell you the joke, but if I did that I may offend a few people and get TOS’ed (finally ).
I know that’s never stopped me before, but I think it would be more
funny to hear Kevin Beacon say it. Rent “HallowMan.” He say’s the joke
just before he goes invisible.

But beware, it is rated “R” with violence, explicit language, and some sexual content. Viewer discretion is advised .
-Javier C.

Posted by Emmett “Darby” Darbyshire on 04-04-2001 01:59 AM
I continue to ponder Boomer’s device…and I still come to the same conclusion: it won’t work as described.
I continued (by trick and device as necessary) to try to pin Boomer
down to some general idea of the mass of his “micro-singularities” but
was unsuccessful. The passenger side of his truck (in the photos)
doesn’t seem to be squashed and the truck seems to be sitting level.
The device with the singularities inside probably weighs no more that
100 kg.

In an earlier post I threw out an absurd number for the size of the
Schwarzschild Radius if the mass of the singularities was that of a
“small mountain”…I think that I said something like one meter. No one
questioned that except Rick (Boomer suggested that the mass was much
less than what I proposed but didn’t question the numbers). It really
was an absurdly large number. The Schwarzschild Radius of the Earth
collapsed to a black hole would be about 9mm.

Let’s suppose that the mass of his singularities is 100 kg. The
Schwarzschild Radius would be about 4.5*10^-13 cm. Boomer says that the
singularities are spinning and he pumps electrons into it to expand the
radius. I’ll give the devil his due and allow him to pump another 100
kg of electrons into the singularities. The radius becomes 9*10^-13 cm.
And because they are spinning I’ll allow him to expand the radius one
trillion fold to 9*10^-1 cm (9mm). Oddly enough that’s the same
Schwarzschild Radius of the Earth collapsed to a black hole. HOWEVER,
there’s a huge difference. Sitting in the driver’s seat one meter away
the gravitational effect on the driver is exactly the same as having
200 kg of normal mass sitting one meter away. It would have no more
effect on the driver than the motor block of the truck sitting under
the hood. Gravitation decreases as the inverse square of the distance
from the center of gravity.

But let me switch gears. Let’s suppose that the machine worked as
Boomer suggests. The singularities sit inside of his “black box”. He
starts it up and the singularities expand. What is the first object
affected by the expanding event horizon? The device itself. Before
Boomer is affected by the expanding gravitational “distortion field”
his device will lie wholly inside the Event Horizon and be gone along
with its GVL, cesium clocks and battery before the field reaches him.
The machine might travel but Boomer would be left behind with two
unleashed singularities. (An event that he admitted would be disastrous
according to the IRC log on the Anomalies site.)

The theory of physics that he uses is somewhat based on scientific fact…but the engineering that he suggests simply won’t work.
(If you haven’t read the IRC log you should. Boomer was drinking
wine that night and was rather talkative…and was hitting on Yareisa.
Sex and alcohol…an Intel weenie’s dream when debriefing a target.)

The IRC log is at:
http://www.anomalies.net/time_traveler

Posted by Javier Cortez on 04-04-2001 02:37 AM
Darby,
((If you haven’t read the IRC log you should. Boomer was drinking
wine that night and was rather talkative…and was hitting on Yareisa.
Sex and alcohol…an Intel weenie’s dream when debriefing a target.))

Lol , man that was funny. I like having a good laugh now and then. Thanks for pointing that out Darby.
Btw, isn’t that what some service members do though when they are
dispatched to other places besides the U.S.? Drink and have sex with
the locals ?

Tisk-tisk John, and laying the moves on a married woman…
-J.C.

Posted by Kevin Spooner on 04-04-2001 05:09 AM Red face
On another post I questionned the alleged video footage of the
person moving into his apparent time travel field and wondered
similarly to how Darby has now why is it that the fishtank, parts of
the floor, walls and all other objects in its immediate focus did not
also dissapear. Kind of makes me wonder.

But then I suppose we mere uneducated people suffering lack of nick
names should not be privvy to such a thing as a reasonable explanation.

Aw gee mum…. I think its all a bit of a jigsaw without the frame
to place it on. Or is that there IS no frame to assemble it on in the
first place? Maybe its a conspiracy.

But then again… anythings possible (well… maybe.)
Still looking forward to alleged video of JT the TT’s departure. Any news? Its a bit like waiting for dessert don’t you think?

Posted by Rick Donaldson on 04-04-2001 09:40 AM
Andy: I’m real sorry to inform you people of this but,— corporeal
beings are not permitted to travel backward in time. It is a

universal principal that time travel only to the future, is
permitted. We are not, in any way, shape or form, thank god,

permitted to alter that which will be, by changing that which was.
What rule book are you reading Andy? I mean, it isn’t that I do not
believe you… after all your comments pretty much meld with what
Javier believes (that time travel should NOT be permitted), but at
least he gives credit where credit is due. You’re simply making a
blanket statement regarding the idea (one that’s not been proven one
way or the other mind you). So… show me this rule book you have.


Posted by Pamela Moore on 04-04-2001 07:20 PM
To Darby: (tarbaby)
Keep these details in mind when analyzing the functionality of the machine:
1. The singularity itself does not touch anything. it is suspended in a magnetic feild.
2.The singularity is charged before it is captured. that is how the second event horizon is formed. positive-top spin.
3.The gravity feilds they create are combined and twisted.
4. The gravity between the singularity and the event horizons have different properties.
5. They are controlled by overlapping and varying the energy between them.
6. The machine is in the back seat when in operation.
sincerely,
Pamela
[Edited by Pamela Moore on 04-04-2001 at 07:24 PM]

Posted by Kevin Spooner on 04-04-2001 08:50 PM
isn’t the contact of a Singularity actually the means of suspension
unless of course it were within a pure vaccume with no other forces
involved? Would this not create a contactual bridge between the
singularity itself and the external / surrounding items or forces?

A singularity has dimensions?
What can alter gravity? Altering Mass & acceleration? What can
alter a mass based gravity? A bigger mass. What a mess of mass. Can
mass be manipulated into patterns?

Two slightly different sounds create a third harmony (much like
Robert Monroe’s Hemisync system.) Does the same apply to the gravity
fields in this case?

And I just wondered, yes a wee joke… as the previous post
mentioned the machine is in the back seat when in operation, does this
imply a rear-ended exit?

Oh for goodness sake Kevin… be still thou soul! The video can’t be far away away away away awa aw aaaaaa.

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